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Post Re: MGS fan getting into ZOE
i didn't get the whole story myself
in fact, i didn't care, all i care about is gameplay, ass a result i played ZOE 1 till my thumbs got
numb.
EYE R A HEE-UGE mecha fan
the reason i played actually was cuz of gauntled... i want to play it again but i want to beat 2nd runnah with all jehutys and in every difficulty

also looking for ex mission (anyone know where they are [all of them]) ...


Sun May 10, 2009 9:55 am
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SteagleColbeagle wrote:
So, I've watched IDOLO and beaten ZOE1, and now I'm kind of confused.

IDOLO: Martians = good guys, Earthlings = bad guys
ZOE1: Martians = bad guys, Jupiterians (?) = good guys? Or would Antilla fall under "Earth" considering in IDOLO the Earthlings lived in that orbital space station and picked on Radium and co.?

Why the switch?

In 2167, Mars is the one being oppressed by Earth. By 2172 (perhaps even before that), the position is nearly completely reversed.

Antilia is actually a NUT (Nereidum Universal Technology) installation, not UNSF.

Also, since NUT is actually a sympathiser of BAHRAM, NUT is in effect BAHRAM and they maintained a stranglehold on Metatron production which Earth/UNSF wants to break & take control of. This is mentioned in Dolores, i.
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Plus, if the Martians attacked Antilla to steal Jehuty and Anubis, when Leo took Jehuty, his mission he was given was to deliver Jehuty to Mars. Meaning he'd be delivering it to the Martians. Meaning he's delivering it to the people attacking him. Why are they attacking him? I couldn't follow.

Nohman and his groupies did not attack Antilia to 'steal' Jehuty and Anubis. It's more like they are actually recovering Jehuty and Anubis since those two are actually created by BAHRAM, not UNSF.
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Also, as you probably know, BAHRAM made Idolo, UNSF made Jehuty & Anubis (after Idolo's Orbital Frame data was released everywhere, like everyone started making Metal Gears -- RAY for example -- after REX's data was released).

Uhh...nope. BAHRAM made Jehuty and Anubis. In ZOE2, Nohman gave us that little story about Dingo's last mission - delivery of the Metatron which later became the twins. Both were made and intended by Rikoah Hardiman (Nohman's father) as 'ignition keys' for Aumaan, remember?

Officially, UNSF only occupied the colony in 2172. See the timeline here - http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/zoe/englis ... index.html. Obviously, once they captured Antilia, they found the twins, found out about Aumaan and installed ADA into Jehuty so that Jehuty will self-destruct when it goes into Aumaan.
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They don't know it's supposed to be delivered, that's a secret. They just have orders to steal it. ADA's mission aboard Jehuty is to reach AUMAAN so she can self-destruct, destroying BAHRAM's super weapon. BAHRAM doesn't know of ADA's mission and wants to capture [or destroy] Jehuty because AUMAAN needs both Anubis and Jehuty before it can even activate.

Of course, BAHRAM doesn't know because as I understand it, ADA is not part of the original design since the twins are BAHRAM's own designs under construction before the UNSF overtook Antilia. What's the name of the UNSF guy who confirmed that ADA was installed for that self-destruct purpose again?


Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:32 am
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volrath77 wrote:
Uhh...nope. BAHRAM made Jehuty and Anubis. In ZOE2, Nohman gave us that little story about Dingo's last mission - delivery of the Metatron which later became the twins. Both were made and intended by Rikoah Hardiman (Nohman's father) as 'ignition keys' for Aumaan, remember?

HAHAHA forgot about that part, yeah, my mistake. Nohman in ZOE2 goes back and explains how Dingo's mission was to escort the Metatron and all for Jehuty and Anubis, except BAHRAM had already had it.

volrath77 wrote:
Officially, UNSF only occupied the colony in 2172. See the timeline here - http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/zoe/englis ... index.html. Obviously, once they captured Antilia, they found the twins, found out about Aumaan and installed ADA into Jehuty so that Jehuty will self-destruct when it goes into Aumaan.

Yes, Alan had programmed ADA to self-destruct once she reaches Aumaan. But Dingo explains at the end of ZOE2 that since Anubis and Jehuty are twins, they both have an AI, both of which were programmed to self-destruct, right?

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